and president obama realized that this was a time to speak up and to speak out on the freedom for everyone to marry. >> do you think homosexuality is a sin? >> i think that it's -- it's unnatural. i think that it's detrimental and destructive to so many foundations of civilization. >> what do you do if your one of your six kids says dad, bad news, i'm gay. >> i would have a heart to heart with him. >> what would you say? >> i would say, that's great son, as long as you are happy. >> i would say, you know, there are all sorts of issues we need to wrestle through. just because you feel one way, doesn't mean we should act on everything that we feel. >> some say, that telling kids that it is damaging, in a country where seven states legalized it. >> yes, but you have to understand that you, yourself are using a standard of morality to say that telling people such and such of a behavior is sinful, you are using a stand of morality to say it is destructive. everybody- -- listen, i am not an american. i am making the point that seven states legalized gay marriage. >> piers, you are speaking to a